Out with the 'ring

"BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires" (biturbo228) 06/22/2015 at 09:08 • Filed to: None

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In with !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! . The only true test of a road going motor vehicle’s talents.

CalzoneGolem > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 06/22/2015 at 09:15

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These results would be more relevant to me than ‘ring time.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 06/22/2015 at 09:21

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If a ‘73 Fiat can do the run in 2005, I think there’s an argument to be made for trying a 60s Ford and a Spit in about a decade or so...

Goggles Pizzano > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 06/22/2015 at 09:26

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:-)x

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > CalzoneGolem 06/22/2015 at 09:28

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Exactly :) it would also make these hosts of new CUVs and SUVs at least a little bit interesting...

CalzoneGolem > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 06/22/2015 at 09:31

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And any low slung sports car that made it would be a real winner.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 06/22/2015 at 09:31

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Aww hell yeah :)

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > CalzoneGolem 06/22/2015 at 09:32

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See Goggle Pizzano’s post ;)

Richtofen, Baron von Pickup > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 06/22/2015 at 09:43

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I am absolutely for this idea.

DrScientist > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 06/22/2015 at 09:56

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what kind of visas does one need to arrange for such a trip? or is it just a show up at the border and they wave you through?

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > DrScientist 06/22/2015 at 09:59

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Never looked into it actually :S the event might have some sort of pass that lets its competitors pass through certain countries...

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 06/22/2015 at 10:03

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You’ll have to, er...borrow it from your anonymous friends on the internet, but there is a wonderful 4-part mini-doc hosted by Warren Brown of TG Oz fame about the 2005 recreation of that race using period cars.

It is well worth a watch if you can find it.

DrScientist > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 06/22/2015 at 10:08

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i admit i didn’t click your link. and didn’t realize this was an organized event.

i was thinking about just buying a ticket to beijing, scraping up some yuan to buy a faux rolls and heading to paris. my lady friend loves paris. :)

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 06/22/2015 at 10:51

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Ooh, next time I get the opportunity I’ll look that up :)

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 06/22/2015 at 10:55

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I might be able to help you find them. I just need to dig around my Top Gear harddrive at home...

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 06/22/2015 at 11:03

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Sweet :) thanks

RallyWrench > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 06/22/2015 at 13:14

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IN.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > RallyWrench 06/22/2015 at 13:27

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You make a good point: this would need to be a team sort of thing. Incidentally, I’ve been researching the route and legalities therein. The only big PITA is China - short-term tourists aren’t allowed to run motor vehicles at all and everything on the road there has to be Chinese-plated, no exceptions (though there is Chinese plating for foreign nationals). There’s presumably a way to work that, but after that, the route is Mongolia, Russia, Poland, Germany, etc. - all signatories to Vienna including Mongolia(!). As long as the car gets registered in some way in a signatory country and China, the run is A-OK.

Also:

RallyWrench > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 06/22/2015 at 13:42

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China: Always a pain in the ass. Between the Ranchero and Fairlane, we can carry all the spares that will be necessary for the Spitfire.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > RallyWrench 06/22/2015 at 14:02

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Some further info: it is apparently possible to get temporary tags in China for $ExpensiveButNotInsane and to get a Chinese temporary license - both possible to handle in English in Beijing. Each province apparently handles things a little bit differently, but going the full hog with local registration and involvement in the local messes (tag lotteries, etc.) doesn’t appear to be necessary.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 06/22/2015 at 14:18

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I looked into it a little earlier. As long as one has an EU or otherwise cleared car with the country of origin sticker and so on, one can drive through any and all of the Vienna signatory countries, which apparently even includes Mongolia. This leaves only China, in which one would have to apply for a Chinese license and temporary registration for the car. The temporary registration is apparently something of a morass but not impossible, and the license can apparently be arranged to take in English, with a hundred question test requiring 90% for pass (or something like that) and driving test typically waived for EU/other semi-respected licensing states.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 06/23/2015 at 17:03

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As promised.

Let me know if this works or not.

http://1drv.ms/1Hci96a

davedave1111 > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 06/25/2015 at 09:43

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O/T here, but looks like I have to sell the BMW :/

Do you want it, or know anyone who does? I’m sure I can work something out on the price for anyone who’s going to fix it instead of pull it to pieces for parts.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > davedave1111 06/27/2015 at 03:38

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Oooh interesting :) i’ll have an ask ariund. What sort of ballpark would you be looking at and what’s left to fix?

davedave1111 > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 06/27/2015 at 09:57

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Basically, everything’s left to fix - I’ve been dithering about selling it, so not doing anything, until I finally realised that if I keep dithering it’s going to deteriorate. Started it up the other day and with a fulky charged battery it started first time.

So, let me see:

Front suspension bushes, might as well do the shocks while you’re there, fix the manifold studs.

Cleaning, paint correction, tiny bit of welding

Possible fuel filler neck replacement (or just don’t fill the tank all the way...)

New tyres all round

I don’t really know what it’s worth in the current market. I had a quick look on Ebay at completed listings, and there don’t seem to be projects going for much under £1k - but if you have a better idea, feel free to make an offer.

What sort of price would make you bite my hand off? I don’t really want to have all the hassle of trying to sell it on Ebay, so there’s definitely a deal to be done.

davedave1111 > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 06/27/2015 at 16:27

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P.S. I’d say straight swap for the BX, but SWMBO would kill me...

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > davedave1111 06/30/2015 at 07:19

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Hmmmmm, most i’d be able to pay for it personally is about 300. Thats as much throwaway money as i can muster at the moment. It’s on the low side but i can guarantee it’ll be fixed up :) i’d even sell it back once it’s on the road if you fancy it

If i had another car to drive at the moment i’d swap the bx, but at the moment the rest of the fleet is under renovation :S

davedave1111 > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 06/30/2015 at 09:20

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Aww, shame, that’s a bit too low, I think. I’ll have to stick it on Ebay and see what I get for it, but if it’s not significantly higher you can definitely have it. It’ll take a few weeks, I expect, so if you come up with a bit more in the meantime (or find someone else who wants it), let me know.

“at the moment the rest of the fleet is under renovation“

What, all of them?!

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > davedave1111 07/01/2015 at 08:39

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Yeah i thought it was too low tbh, but i’ve yet to ask my sisters boyfriend who might be interested. Shall let you know if he’s interested or if i come into some money :)

How much would you be happy with, or would you only really know after you’ve ebayed it?

Annoyingly the lot need work :S the alfa’s alternator beeds changing which is an arse of a job, the jag needs diff bearings that i neglected to change during the lsd swap, the lada’s a deathtrap, the mg and the porsche are otr with minor issues and both mazzers need work on body and engine respectively. Oh, i can’t even borrow my dad’s alfa as the self-levelling shock on the back has blown so its sitting just above the bumpstops :S

davedave1111 > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 07/04/2015 at 10:35

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Gah. Just got a letter from the managing agents for the block telling me I have 14 days to let them know if I’m getting rid of the car or if I’m going to tax and insure it.

The big problem pricewise is that I have trouble believing the bubble prices these things are fetching, and feel a bit like I’d be ripping you off if I asked for anything like what it’s probably worth on the open market. But £300 feels too low even in light of that, so... I probably ought to just suck up the hassle and stick it on Ebay.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > davedave1111 07/06/2015 at 04:59

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Yeah stick it up on eBay, if it doesn’t sell in time for you to get it off the block then I can take it off your hands, perhaps for a little more than £300 if a couple of the things I’m eBaying sell too. I’d feel a bit like I was ripping you off too if I’d just straight up take it before giving you a chance on the open market.

Actually, I haven’t asked :S how much would you be happy letting it go for?

davedave1111 > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 07/13/2015 at 07:38

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Whoops, just remembered I forgot to send you this:
http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?na…

Not a lot of interest so far, one little nibble.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > davedave1111 07/13/2015 at 10:18

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Apparently I’m trying to access a restricted zone!